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Hey everybody, this is going around over on tumblr, but I feel like it's just as relevant here and it's a really good informational post for people that have/want to have good dealings and interactions with online artists. Because seriously, these are really good things to know. (I mean, I've been pestered by almost all of these at some point or another, and if people had read these they might have saved me a lot of annoyance)  So give it a read if you'd like.  The original post comes from www.phantom42.tumblr.com

Don’t tell an artist, “SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!" or "I would totally buy that!" if you’re not ready and/or willing to back it up with an actual purchase. Artists love that you love the piece, but often produce pieces/quantities based on apparent interest and potential customers. Gauges of potential buyers and gauges of general interest are both very important, but they are very different.

 Do tell an artist that you love the piece. Just be honest about it. It’s OK if it’s out of your price range. It’s OK if you have no practical use or place for a piece. Most artists get the warm fuzzies just from honest compliments even if you’re not going to be a paying customer.  

Don’t assume that every message to an artist is going to get a response. Most artists read every message they get, but don’t always have time to respond to everything.

 

Do give the artist some time to respond. Some artists get a lot of messages and have to balance their time responding with their workload and still make time to be a person and have a life outside of art.

 

Don’t comment on a piece telling the artist how much it reminds you of some other artist’s work or other character (unless you’re calling them out on a blatant copyright violation). In your mind, you may see it as a compliment. You loved the art style in some movie, and this seems similar to you - you’re complimenting this artist, right?! The artist may have been influenced by that same work, but most are consciously aiming to evolve from that influence. Just as it’s dangerous to tell someone that you notice that they look good after losing some weight (“What, I didn’t look good before?!” or “No, I haven’t. Do I normally look fat?!”), not everyone sees this as a compliment.

Do be specific about compliments. “I really like the pose” or “This really captures the movement well.”  

Don’t tell an artist what they should do next. “This is awesome! You should do this other character next!” The only people artists need to take instructions from are themselves and paying customers.

 

Do politely tell the artist what subjects you might like to see. There’s a big difference in tone between, “Do my favorite character next!” and “I would love to see more art along these lines, possibly of this character.”

 

Don’t tell artists how to use their tools or materials better. You don’t know what they’ve tried or what they do. They may have tried it and it didn’t work. Lots of ideas sound good in our heads or on paper, and don’t work out as well in reality.

 

Do ask artists how they use their tools or materials. Ask if they’ve tried it your way. Offer informed insight. This boils down to attitude and tone. Bad: “Do this instead.” Good: After a conversation leading to it, “have you tried doing this instead?”

 

Don’t assume or expect artists to share their tricks, techniques, sources of materials or services with you. Some are open; some are guarded. There is no right, and no wrong. They don’t owe you anything. Most sources of materials or services are near the top of the page if you do a simple web search.

 

Do be gracious and actually respond if they answer your question about tricks, techniques, sources, or services. If they took the time to answer your question about something, a minimum of “Thank you.” is in order

 

Don’t ask for freebies, or free/spec work. For many artists, art isn’t a hobby - it’s their living. They don’t have time to make you free art. We’re all very sure that your new game/book/comic/restaurant/store really is going to be the next big thing. Part of building a business the right way is properly valuing your talent and assets - that includes the artists you hire - “hire” being the operative word. Exposure is great. Food on the table is even better.

 

Do contact artists with well thought out opportunities that acknowledge and value their time, skill, and effort. Just understand that they may not be as passionate about your project as you are. 

 

Don’t be a creeper or be inappropriate. Just because you’ve gotten a response to an email or comment, or because you’ve purchased something from an artist, it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re BFF’s now. Being friendly is not the same as being friends. Until you’re friends, a general rule would be to not say anything that would be inappropriate to say to any random person on the street.

 

Do be conscious of boundaries. Be polite, complete your transactions or interactions, and move along. 

 

Don’t come across like a five year-old (unless you are one). No one is expecting your message to read like a Pulitzer winning story, but thoughts should be mature and cohesive. Proper grammar and punctuation go a long way.

 

Do proofread your messages before you hit post/send. If you’re dealing with an artist in person, pause for a moment and think about what you’re about to say - and don’t ever be a creeper or inappropriate.

 

Don’t ask if you can ask a question. This tip is brought you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

 

Do check the artist’s FAQ and relevant descriptions if applicable. If your question has not already been answered, just ask it. 

 

Don’t automatically assume that the artist knows as much about your favorite fandom as you do. Artists often know just enough about a subject to complete a piece. 

 Do express your love for your favorite character or fandom, just remember that you may be the only one who shares the love.  

Don’t ask why a piece of art “costs that much”. A piece of art is not the end product of just the time and materials to create a piece. It is a result and sum total of the artist’s career as an artist as they learn and hone their skills,  as well as the materials and time spent creating that particular piece.

 

Do ask how much an available piece costs (assuming that the price isn’t already listed. You looked right?)

 

Don’t tell an artist you “wish [you] could afford this.” Most artists see this as a passive-aggressive complaint about their prices, which are usually underpriced to begin with. If you can’t afford a piece, that’s on you, not the artist. 

 

Do begin saving up for a piece if you’re honestly interested in it, or contact the artist about getting a custom piece done in the future.

 

Don’t ask how much another customer paid for a custom piece of art.  The price charged to the previous customer was the agreed upon price at the time. It is possible, and even likely, that the price will be different. Artists learn something new with almost every piece they do. What took 10 hours the first time may only take 8 hours the next. But an artist’s hourly rate may have gone up. Prices of materials may have changed. The cost to produce a piece varies constantly. Plus, it’s just a little gauche.

 

Do ask if prints are available (after checking the description, of course).



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:iconplatike4ever:
Platike4ever Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well some artists are kind of rude about their commissions.. they're not always nice either. it's like "Well I didn't want to buy your art anyway. -__-"
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NotKiwi Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Student General Artist
This. Would go suuuuuuuch a long way. 
I really should just show this to all of my friends, so they no longer make me want to bite their heads off... 
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Lol, do it. People need to know. XD
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AxletheBeast Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I actually have commented about familiarity of a piece regarding something else I've seen before and it's always gone over well as far as I can recall. In those cases I usually make a comparison as to how the other thing made me feel similar or how it was an awesome addition to the piece, so it's a lot more detailed than "this looks similar to something I liked, so I liked it". It's just a matter of how you say it. I also don't think an artist should take it as passive-aggression or even criticism to say you wish you could afford it if it's worded exactly like that, and I think suggesting better ways to use the tools -- if you have experience enough to know better and also to know which techniques they probably used -- can be a valid and useful criticism depending on situation. Those things all depend on the situation.

I agree with most though and I especially like the comment about prices being about more than just time and supplies but the skills the artist has built up over their career. That's very true (and applies to many fields), but isn't something people talk about enough. Props. =D
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Starhorse Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Professional General Artist
an excellent post. *nods*
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I thought it was too good not to repost.
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meroe1313 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very informative, thank you for sharing. :D
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XLEHX Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Student General Artist
This is a great read! Thanks for sharing it with us on dA here; really sheds some light on some things that are not very touched upon :meow:
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I thought it could do with some sharing on DA as well as tumblr. XD
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XLEHX Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Mhmm, definitely~
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Dragonith Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This. This so much. x-x

You won't believe how common the "Don’t comment on a piece telling the artist how much it reminds you of some other artist’s work or other character" one is in the Fakemon community. It's just... ugh. OTL
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, it's probably one of the most common offenders on this list. It's like, everybody is just dying to compare other people's art to something else. XD
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GodessFae Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Student General Artist
oh man when I get any sort of comment like this I want to flip tables. 98% of the time I don't even know the anime/game etc they were talking about (and about half the time I look it up to check and it's not that alike or verrrrrrrrrry minimal similarities) and every time I feel like 'are you trying to say I'm a stealing wretch?'
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Saaaaaammmmeeeee here. XD
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jthemm Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014
Wait we aren't BFFs? So got to change my friend status then.
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YeriDG Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whaaaat so we're not bff because you answered me 2 or 3 times? xD
Just kidding, I like your art though and some of your journals are pretty interesting, too :)
One thing, though, sometimes I really wish I could afford sth. which I can't because I don't earn enough money (yet),
so saying this is automatically a complaint about the prices seems a little oversensitive. Bugging the artist with your financial
state maybe isn't nice, but meh, if they decide to come back once they earn enough money, would you really complain about their
wishes? If there's enough paying clients it can't be your prices, right?
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TyggFestival Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014
yeaa "aww I wish I had enough money for that" I've done this probably like once or twice before, but I get this all the time on my adoptable account x'D (like 2-3+ times every deviation :I )
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I think I've said it myself before to people too actually. XD We all do some of these sometimes. ^^;
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hawkeyemaverick Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A fantastic read. 
Although it also serves as a reminder that I do, occasionally, slip on one of these points ^^;
"Don’t tell an artist what they should do next."
I think I did that quite recently, unfortunately. ^^;
It's all about the wording, I suppose. :O 
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gallows70 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
that was a long read. :P
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
But it's one everybody should read. XD
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gallows70 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i know buuuut there is soooo much to read it hurts my head 
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Wut? Man it takes like, three minutes tops to read all of that.
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gallows70 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i'm a slow reader  XD
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TheGexxonatr97 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i feel like i've accidentally done some of these somewhere before 

I should save this. Excellent tips for conversing with artists. ...It's weird, I guess some people kind of do these things because they don't realize that artists are people too; they just kind of talk to them (not even that, more talk AT them) like they're not some person with a knack for tools and a good arting hand sitting behind a computer screen and actually reading their comments. Maybe it's because they really enjoy their art, and in a way don't really think of it as actually physically possible to do (at least not by their hands) and say "WHOA DIS RLY GOOD MOR PLZ." It's...it's just weird. Most of this stuff is even common sense, like grammar, spelling, punctuation, maturity, manners...that's just things people should know how to do, or at least know of them. "Treat others how you want to be treated in return:" it may be something I learned in, what, first grade, but it's true. How would you (generic artist, not to "you" in particular XD) like it if you were treated like this? Weird and bad, I'd imagine. 
...Alright, tangent over XD Thanks for spreading these tips along, these'll prove useful to remember for future interactions! :D
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
No problem! And yeah, I think a lot of people fail to realize than when they're messaging an artist online (or any kind of user) that they're messaging a real person, with a life and needs, and problems and likes/dislikes, etc.  You're not just talking to a computer after all. XD
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TheGexxonatr97 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, exactly! XD Couldn't have said it better, haha.
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catandcrown Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
couldnt agree more with these. great post :)
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Well, I can't take credit for writing it, but I thought it was something DA people needed. XD
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mouseanderson Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But I thought creepy was part of my charm.
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Lol, well not that kind of creepy. XD
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mouseanderson Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I try. 
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WolfpackDragonfly Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
...crap, I think I've done some of these.  3:
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I think we all have at some point. XD
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WolfpackDragonfly Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I'm so ashamed...
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Rosey-Mae Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Student Digital Artist

"Don’t come across like a five year-old (unless you are one). No one is expecting your message to read like a Pulitzer winning story, but thoughts should be mature and cohesive. Proper grammar and punctuation go a long way.

 

Do proofread your messages before you hit post/send. If you’re dealing with an artist in person, pause for a moment and think about what you’re about to say - and don’t ever be a creeper or inappropriate."


:icontearsofjoyplz: Please! PLEASE!!! :icontearsofjoyplz:
I can't be the only grammarian on the internet!!

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Q8yShadow Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Don’t ask if you can ask a question." so....does that mean i just instantly ask instead of asking politely before asking a question? ;u; (sorry if the text is bold XD)
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah sure. Why not? XD
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Q8yShadow Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well wat if the artist wants manners 1st? ;p it's like saying "gimmie a sandwich!" instead of "can i hav a sandwich?"
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Amorphous-blob Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It's less about manners and more about that it's annoying to have to answer two questions when you'd only have to answer one!

If you're afraid of sounding impolite, you can say something like "You don't have to answer this if you don't want to" or "Do you mind telling me <the thing you're going to ask them>?"

Also, when you ask someone "Can I ask you a question?", aren't you already asking them a question?
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Q8yShadow Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i guess ur right about that .o.
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
No, that's not what it means. ^^; It just means that it's okay to send a message saying something like "I was wondering about..." or "I have a question about..." You don't need to ask if you can ask a question, and then wait for the artist to reply before you actually ask the question. It just saves everybody time. It's like following a critique format- first you say whatever comments you have about the art, then you ask questions/offer feedback whatever. But you do it all at once, you don't have to keep asking permission. XD
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Q8yShadow Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ahh....XD i see~ alright!
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cheriboo Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014
drawing an oc and either having it labeled "insert popculture fandom character here" or "just like my oc" are probably the worst :c it took me nearly four years of being on this site to be comfortable with uploading oc art because of it and i still get accusations like that, even with a character that is very blatantly based off of myself blehh
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I get that sometimes too. XD Luckily, most people are gracious enough to not compare my OC to others, but every now and then they do. THough it always makes me laugh when I get the ones where people are like "OMG your OC looks just like mine because they both have black hair and are white! D:" Or some other really generic similarity like eye color or that they both wear boots or something. XD
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cheriboo Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014
oh my gosh, people actually do that?? thats so ridiculous oman haha//
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, it happens sometimes. Always makes me laugh. XD
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shayfifearts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional General Artist
Now I'm going to do everything it says not to, just to bug you....muahahahahah.
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Turtle-Arts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Lol, I'll just do it right back to you. XD
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shayfifearts Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Professional General Artist
Hmmm...I guess that's only fair lol
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